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New [13 Sep 2006|08:24pm]


Name/Nickname: Rory. No nickname.
Location: Gloucester, MA
Birthday: December 11
Age: 18
Level of Education: I'm in the 12th grade.


Favorite Movies (up to 10): Labyrinth, The Dark Crystal, Eraserhead, Bram Strokers Dracula, Interview with the Vampire, The Texas Chainsaw Masacre (original), Night of the Living Dead, Huse of 1000 Corpses, Nightmare Before Christmas
Favorite Bands (at least 10, no more than 20): The Cure, Joy Division, Bleeding Through, Cradle of Filth, Slayer, Bauhaus, Rob Zombie, Alice in Chains, Black Sabbath
Favorite Books/Authors (up to 10 each): Edgar Allen Poe, Anne Rice, The Satanic Bible, Shakespeare, A Clockwerk Orange, Dracula, October Country, H.P. Lovecraft, Johnny the Homicidal maniac, Roald Dahl

Favorite Artists (up to 10): Andy Warhol, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Salvador Dali, Da Vinci, Jhonen Vasquez, Frank Frazetta, Brom, R Crumb, Charles Addams, Edward Gorey
Favorite Clothing (that you have): My black hoodie that I wear everyday, my Jack Skellington wristband, and my Misfits shirt.
Favorite Clothing (that you may not necessarily have): My girlfriend's Crow sweatshirt, and my friend Zakk's Jack Skellington shirt.
Favorite Song Lyrics: "Watching the reel as it comes to a close, brutally taking its time, people who change for no reason at all, Its happening all of the time. Can I go on with this train of events? Disturbing and purging my mind, back out of my duties, when alls said and done, I know that Ill lose every time."--"Passover" by Joy Division


Name at least five GOTHIC bands: The Cure, Christian Death, The Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus
Name something that may not fit traditional criteria for being gothic but you may consider gothic anyway: Being very artistic and romantic.
How did the subculture begin? (DETAILS! The more accurate detail, the better, not just one or two sentences.) It began in 1979, when the Bauhaus released "Bela Lugosi's Dead". Some might argue. The Doors were described gothic, along with Joy Division. The goth culture was originally an offshoot of punk.
What do you think of "related" subcultures (cyber, rivethead, graver)? I don't understand the cybrer culture...what's it all about?
What do you think of the "gother-than-thou" attitude some represent? I think's it's kind of a lame attitude.
How did you get into the subculture? I don't really know.
Do you prefer old-school or new-school Goth? Why? Old school. The music was better (Bauhuas, Sisters of Mercy, Christian Death, etc.), and I like the clothes better too. No silly Tripp pants.
Why do you consider yourself Gothic? I guess because I like to look on the darker sides of life.
Complete this sentence: Labels are.... For soup cans.
How did you hear about the community? A search.
Why do you want to join? To communicate with other people.
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[02 Oct 2006|01:29pm]


Мрачный суицидальный gothic darkwave от ДЖЕТЪ (Санкт-Петербург, Россия)
Gloomy suicidal gothic darkwave by Jett (St.Petersbourg. Russia)
on Realmusic

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*looks around suspiciously* [18 Jun 2006|02:42am]

Hmmmmm okay let's examine the quietness issue happening here.

This community's profile claims there are 27 members and 29 people watching. Yet for three and a half months we have only had one post on a topic other than "this community is too quiet."

If we enjoyed it when we got involved we should have an interest in participating and a willingness to create momentum instead of just ride on what other's start, yes/no?

Roll Call?

Roll Call - let's start there.

1. If you still watch this community comment below and say how often you drop by.

2. And a big one. Maintainers, show us you are still alive and take an interst in your community by commenting. It's very admirable that you haven't come up on your soap box and told the members they are slouches for not posting like many other maintainers might have done. However,  knowing you care will motivate the members to be more active. Communities tend to want even the mildest sense of a structure system.

And now for the entertainment segment of this broadcast...

*starts doing a whirling-dervish in a circus clown version of an Uncle Fester costume... solely for your amusement.*
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[10 May 2006|06:57pm]

[ mood | sad ]

I think that we should do some sort of theme like in heirs... this place needs some massive work. So sad to see a good community die... *tear*

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OrneryBoy! [03 Apr 2006|02:35pm]

[ mood | chipper ]

My oh my people need to post more often!

Incase you are bored, check out the bestest little web comic ever! OrneryBoy

Personal favorites 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5

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Not Gawth. Application [01 Mar 2006|03:35pm]

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Not Gawf [20 Feb 2006|01:47am]

[ mood | sleepy ]

Application! Woooo!Collapse )

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Alive - barely kicking. [24 Jan 2006|01:49am]

I'm alive, don't worry. Just been busy, busy, busy. College is around the corner.

Enjoy the Silence.Collapse )<lj comm="decadent_sirens /> </lj-cut>
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Goth reverend runs unique service [19 Jan 2006|10:23am]

[ mood | Amused ]

Something positive about Goth's in the media for once!


The Rev. involved seems a bit like somebody's lame Dad, but still, It's nice to hear something in the news aside from how a bunch of 14 year old Mansonites cruisified a bunny or something. I'm not in any way religious, but I still rather like the idea put forth here...in principal at least.

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[18 Jan 2006|01:48pm]

Promotion, if you PleaseCollapse )
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[30 Nov 2005|02:00pm]

Everyone check out Johnny Indovina's new project, Sound of the Blue Heart. He's the ex-singer and mastermind behind Human Drama. I haven't heard it because my speakers are blown on my computer, but the description reads as follows:

"Sound of the Blue Heart continues to explore the beautiful textures that Human Drama established, coaxing the listener into songs with thought provoking insights and infectious rhythms. In "Beauty?", Indovina contemplates the fickleness of fate, as a dreamlike melody pulls the song along like a slow moving car through crowded city streets. “The Great Escape” finds Indovina softly repeating one of the undeniable truths of life - “there are so many ways to tarnish a beautiful thing”, and later, the smooth pulse of "River of Love" paints a haunting backdrop for Indovina’s musings on the frailty of love."

Somebody should check it out and tell ME how it is... haha.
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[29 Nov 2005|06:10am]

A review of Human Drama's "Feel" album is in goth_cd_review
Go ahead and joing the community to get reviews on your friends page as they happen.

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[23 Nov 2005|09:20pm]

I am going to make a list of 10-12 bands and YOU people must pick songs from the artists and place them in a good order. I will review and give the person a star. You all want a star, right?

Week of 23 November - 30 November

1. The Wolfgang Press
2. black tape for a blue girl
3. David Sylvian
4. Modern English
5. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
6. Head over Heels era Cocteau Twins
7. Throwing Muses
8. Colourbox
9. Dif Juz
10. OLD Clan of Xymox
11. Dead Can Dance

Rules are that the mix must NOT exceed 80 Minutes and Must be as close to 80 as possible.

These artists are INCREDIBLY compatible so it shouldn't be too difficult.
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[20 Nov 2005|07:12am]

Take My Goth Quiz!!!

Post your results.

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Best.Comic.Ever. [17 Nov 2005|11:51am]

 OK, many of you may have already read or heard of this comic, but I think it's worth mentioning

You have to read it from start to finish, and pay attention to the minor details like the name of the boat that the characters are on and the name of the pink elephant.

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Old School Goth Quiz [12 Nov 2005|04:33pm]

[ mood | curious ]

I found this really cool quiz and I was jsut curious what everyone's scores would be. Here's the link,Old School Goth Quiz just post your scores.

I scored a 20

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New Banner [09 Nov 2005|09:00pm]

[ mood | bored ]

Not meaning to take away from the more important posts, but what would you say to changing the banner? It's not the most imaginative thing in the world. Just a thought.

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Moments in Music [09 Nov 2005|09:44am]

Moment 91: On August 8, 1992, Madness, one of the great British ska bands of all time, played an event in Finsbury Park in London called “Madstock.” It was the first appearance by the band in eight years. Attendance was exactly 36,007. As Madness’ set reached a climax, people who lived in a nearby apartment block swore they felt an earthquake. The building shook, the windows rattled, the floor rumbled. Could it really be an earthquake in central London? Scientists went to check it out.

After careful investigation, geologists determined what happened. Down the street as Madness was playing their set, so many people were dancin’ and skankin’ during the song “One Step Beyond” they created vibrations that simulated an earthquake for blocks. Their dancing actually registered on the Ritcher scale.

The great Madness earthquake in London, August 8, 1992...new rock moment number 91.

-- Alan Cross

This tickled my old funny bones - any of you from the UK remember this or remember hearing of it? It is the first I have heard of it.
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[08 Nov 2005|10:41am]

Here's a bit of food for thought...

Can a goth be a goth without a scene?
(Please forgive me for rehashing the age old flame-war that is "defining gothdom")

As was memtioned in my application, I come from St. johns, Newfoundland, a beautiful, culturally facinating, and hystorically rich port town on Canada's extream east. Yes, we live in a perpetual fog bank, and yes, winter last forever, but I wouldn't change good ol' Sin Johns for the world!

That being said, I also mentioned that the predominant scene here was the local punk scene...which is true, but at the same time a bit misleading. The way I said that leads one to believe that there might be any kind of goth scene here whatsoever...and there s not :( The punk scene here has always been large enough and enclusive enough that any distinction between crust punks and deathrockers has been unnecessary at best. However, that's not to say that we don't have people here who fit the bill for certified gothiness....there is just no formal scene. No events. No clubs. No clothing boutiques. Nothing.

Even while I sit here and admit that I've never been to a show or concert that could even remotely be described as an "event", I understand that the gothic subculture involves a fair amount of active participation. But also, I know for a fact that there are alot of people in the same boat as myself...through no fault of their own.

So, can one really claim to be a part of a subculture when they are isolated away from it?

(I should never be alowed to write when i'm this bored....sigh)
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Doomcookies suck...again. [07 Nov 2005|10:46am]

This is the way...Step inside...

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Realize this right now- Look through this applic-ay minus the “Goth doom judgment doom” attitude, and with the “haha lets laugh at ourselves because really no one should listen to THAT much Bauhaus” attitude, Because this thing is chock full of it. And maintain an open mind. This isn’t a Goth applying here. This is a Briana Urena. A rare breed indeed…Rawr, I’m a Vampiric Dinosaur!

Name-Briana Urena
Nickname- B.l.u.
Location- Kentwood, MI
Birthday-June 24, 1990
Age- 15. Yeah, well, your mother.

Level of Education- 10th grade

Sexuality- Straight.

Favorite Movies/Documentaries-The Crow, Requiem for a Dream, Clandestine, Punk: Attitude, Cowboy Bebop Movie, Bend It Like Beckham, The Breakfast Club, 16 Candles, Edward Scissorhands, The Secret Life of Vampires, Woman and Vampires,
Favorite Bands-AFI, The Smiths, The Cure, The Cult, Siouxsie and The Banshees, Depeche Mode, Nine Inch Nails, Joy Division, Jack’s Mannequin, Apoptgyma Berzerk, VNV Nation, Morrissey, Rudimentary Peni, Sisters Of Mercy, Ladytron, The Cruxshadows, Velvet Acid Christ, Echo and the Bunnymen.

Favorite Books- Chronicles of Narnia, 1984, A Series Of Unfortunate Events, Edgar Allen Poe Complete Book of Poetry, Emily Dickenson Poetry, The Diary of Anne Frank, A slew of Holocaust/WW2 history books, Pandora, Gravitation, Tarot Café, Fruits Basket, JTHM, Mars, To Kill A Mockingbird, The Crow

Favorite Authors-Daniel Hadler, George Orwell, Edgar Allan Poe, Emily Dickenson, Anne Rice, Jhonen Vasquez, James O’ Barr

Favorite Artists- Andy Warhol. Yu Waste. Naoko Takechui. Park San Sung. Maki Murakami. Jhonen Vasquez. Myself. My little sister Janelle.

Favorite Clothing-My “She Sells Sanctuary” White Pirate Top, My black and grey jacket, my spike belt, my black dress pants, my blue and white “Emo” top, my Bauhaus shirt, My Miles Davis shirt. All of which was either purchased at a 75% off rack or at a Thrift shop!

Favorite Clothing that I do not own- Corsets, Goth Victorian style clothing, Band Shirts, Things with lots of chains and holes and just messiness everywhere.

Favorite Song Lyrics-
Whoa! What a question! Anything by AFI and The Smiths would do, Drops of Jupiter by Train, or anything by Bright Eyes or Something Corperate… I also like Sanctified by NIN, Beating Heart Baby by Head Automatica makes me plenty happy…but oh Lord how I cried when I listened to this…



You're a few years overdue.
I spent them waiting here for you.
Now your charity's refused,
I can name a penance for abuse.

Twenty four years overdue,
what kind of role model are you?
Very least learn not to do,
I think I might be over you.

Do hope I won't
Learn to make
The same mistakes,
That you would
Make me aware
That only fear,
My only hope,
Is letting go.

Went on a limb for you,
Capsized when I turned twenty two.
Did it burn as bad for you?
No bottle serves to soothe my wounds.

Do hope I won't
Learn to make
The same mistakes,
That you would
Make me aware
That only fear,
My only hope,
Is letting go.
My only hope
Is letting go.

You're a few years overdue.
I spent them waiting here for you.”

5 Gothic Bands-Joy Division, The Cruxshadows, Christian Death, Sisters Of Mercy, Alien Sex Fiend. I have come to notice that a lot * aka most* of the younger Goths dig AFI, and some more underground or morbid punk rock. I’m sure the older ones would too, if they decided to give them a chance and quit trying to pass it off as kindergoth music. I honestly haven’t found a person who’s listen to AFI and knows who they are completely and STILL dislikes them. Prove me wrong here, guys?

5 Goth bands that aren’t technically Goth but we still listen to them- The Cure, The Cult, Nine Inch Nails, New Order, Tears for Fears

How did the subculture begin? - Loosely, It started from the punk rock movement. There were all these bands sprouting up everywhere and they were being influenced by the American punk rock *mc5, Iggy and the stooges, The Ramones, etc* and then that influenced the English punk rock movement. *The Sex Pistols, The Clash*Ian Curtis when to a Sex Pistols show(Morrissey was also there) and decided that to make music was his true calling *and thank God for that*. He went on to be the lead singer of Joy Division. Their lyrics were more despairing, their music more gloomy, and their sound all around just depressing. A lot different from the in-your-face politically and socially charged piece of anarchic raw meat that punk rock/early hardcore was, And the crappy pop/70’s music still flying around. Their manager thus classified it as “Goth” in comparison to the other music genres flying around at that time *punk, alternative, etc*. The word caught on. Other bands with that type of feel and sound started to come on the rise too, like Southern Death Cult, Bauhaus, Siouxsie and The Banshees, Sisters of Mercy. *The Batcave scene was starting to grow along with Bauhaus. Sisters of mercy preferred NOT to be associated with Goth, as did The Cult later on. *. Because of The band Bauhaus’ more sinister and Goth look, and their more official naming or their music to be hinting towards Goth, they are usually considered to be the first Goth band, not Joy Division. *Which by the way, irks me so.* Anyways, their music was essentially more dark then its predecessors *I’m not trying to pass them off as secondwave bands…They just came after the likes of The Damned, S&B and JD*, and the lyrics touched on subjects that others never bands and styles of music ever thought to touch on, like vampires, Depression, questioning the life and the afterlife, death, blood, hell, all that melodramatic and yummy sad stuff. Some of the first Goths songs were “Everyday is Halloween” By Ministry and “Bela Lugosi’s Dead” by Bauhaus. For me, either one of these-“She’s lost control”, “Atmosphere”, “Atrocity Exhibit” or “Twenty Four Hours” will do it.

What do I think of related subcultures-that they are just that; related subcultures. They are all cool. I have gotten into some of them *industrial, electronica, raver, etc* So I have no problem with it. Just as long as people know their stuff and know how to tell the difference and whatnot. Some people DO care about details. But really, do what you wish.

What do you think of the “more Goth than thou” attitude that some represent/display- hehe…I use it sometimes, but always as a joke. I don’t take myself TOO seriously. I can get away with it too because no one here even knows what real punk rock is, let alone GOTH. But seriously, It’s a defense mechanism. It’s a way to push the ones who we don’t think should even utter the word Goth out of uttering it, Let alone gallivanting about as if they are Gawthiest of Gawth. (Amy Lee aficionados and Linkin Park lovers…your day WILL come). But people should be careful with it. Sometimes, it can be angled at the wrong people for the wrong reasons, (like because someone is young, or because they like Emo music, *shakes angry fist* no resentment here, guys!) and then it becomes stupid, useless and rude. And sometimes, having that attitude can make you come off as a major jackass/snob. Or if you’re really a winner, both! So it’s a touchy subject. Then again, sometimes nothing more need be done other then brush off and ignore the Hey-pointy-shoes-Bauhaus-Vinyl-An Ankh-I-OWN-your-morbid-and-dying-soul type of attitude.

How did you get into the subculture?- When I was 13(almost 14) and I saw all of the Slipknot worshippers, the Amy lee freaks, the Marilyn Manson followers, and how they called themselves “Goth”, it made me sick. They dressed in nothing but crappy hot topics clothing, constantly talked about destruction, death, blood and cutting in a haughty showy way, and they were TOTAL and COMPLETE idiots who knew nothing and followed what their “gawth” boyfriend or girlfriend said they should follow this week.*Lots of resentment here, guys!* I knew there was more to it than that. I looked about to see if anyone had a clue to what it REALLY was, and saw that the AFI guys like a lot of what was called Goth/darkwave bands. (Davey Havok wears his Joy Division shirt so much its sickening). So I started to look into it and I heard a few songs by The Cure/Joy Division. Since then, I’ve been hooked. I can honestly say that thanks to the AFI guys divine tastes in music, I finally found what was really Goth. And of course, my tastes grew and evolved. Other than that, it’s the usual story- I was an outsider my whole life/Used to be sickly anti-social with a rather pessimistic and depressing look on society and people/I have a higher intelligence than other people do/ I’ve always been rather strange/I’m artistic and overdramatic/And I’m extremely open minded though I can be a bit stubborn and strong willed at times, especially when I feel threatened and want to make a point. And Goth fed and still feeds *and forever will feed* to all of those facets of my personality.

New school/old school-I always prefer old school everything. Its more pure. It shows where the music began. There are no hints of “Hey! Look it! I’m Gawth” because it didn’t exist back then. (Not that those hints of Goth-ness are bad, But there is less of a stereotypical ness and more freedom if its non-existent.) And I prefer the Darkwave sound anyways. But I haven’t looked too much into the newer stuff, so I couldn’t say 100%.

Why do you consider yourself Gothic- I don’t. For me, Dark waver is definitely a better term. But I also like a whole bunch of other genres/cultures of music like Hardcore, Punk, Indie, Emo, Jazz, Metal, etc. So, to just consider myself Goth would be cutting me short. But the reason I’m attracted to it is because its so beautiful. I love EVERYTHING about it. I fit in with the others that don’t. I’ve always been attracted to the things that have more depth and that are darker and debauchery. I don’t find any of the music or the people strange, and it’s a culture that has intelligent people who I can really relate to…I love just moping around thinking and brooding over absolutely nothing while The Smiths play in the back of my head…I love the struggle of trying to situate all my silver jewelry so it doesn’t get caught in the layers of black clothing that I worked hard to match due to a malady called fading…*laughs*

Labels are- Ok! If you think you can be labeled as one thing, and that defines you as a person 100%, then that’s great. I’m Very proud of ya. If not, then don’t label yourself and don’t bitch at the ones who do. Its stereotyping that brings us down. When labels start being used negatively instead of positively, then it’s no longer cool. Labels can be effective if you’re trying to find people you can relate to, but it should be used to do that and NOT to find people you can’t relate to and whom you will separate yourself from/abuse/ostracize/look down upon/think yourself to be better than/etc. (At least, to a certain extent. For example if you think that mentally you’re more ahead than a group of bubbly idiotic cheerleaders, than ok! But just don’t be mean.) And you shouldn’t let labels define what you will or won’t like. Just like what you want to like.

How did you hear about this community-through the 80’s Goth community. Pretty spiffy place, but don’t bother uttering the word EMO there.

Why do you want to join- Why Not?

Pictures- It would own if you guys would give me some slack in this department! I just got grounded off my computer indefinitely the only way I can get to the interenet is on the school computer during my 3rd hour! I’ll go to a friend’s house and get pictures as soon as I can. But If you really want a picture and a bit more information on me, go to my xanga- www.xanga.com/MidnightsunDHchic
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